Pre Ban Norinco Ak 47 Serial Numbers
TF118 Member Posts: 2 (1/15/03 8:58:40 pm) Reply Edit Del All Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Guess I'm a little behind on the issue but now I'm getting into collecting military type weapons, so for starters whats changed on the AK-47? TallTLynn.TFF Senior Staff.
I have a pre-ban Norinco AKM-47S. Any idea what I have here as regards manufacture date or the like? There's no Norinco star anywhere to be found, and these pics show every stamping on the gun. The on blurry one (I am using a borrowed camera, and could not retake right now) says as far as the serial number 'M0000664' and the reciever says: AKM/47S SEMI AUTO 7.62 x 39 thanks in advance! Is There Such A Thing As A Pre-Ban Norinco MAK90 Sporter? HOW TO REGISTER AND GET APPROVED FOR THE FORUM 1. Though because of the 94 serial number. Find pre ban ak for sale at GunBroker.com, the world's largest gun auction site. Norinco 56S AK47 PRE-BAN Chinese AK-47 AK Polytech. 1: 0: $1,999.00: 5d + 771775959.
Posts: 5360 (1/16/03 4:26:33 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Here's what little I know and believe me it's little compared to the experts in this field. As I recall pre-ban (if you can prove it's a preban mind you) is allowed the folding stock, flash suppressor and does not have to have US parts in it to have a magazine of more than 10 rounds. I know there are some other things in regards to a AK pre-ban vs. Post-ban but as usual my mind only remembers a few of them and what I just posted is what few I remember. By the way welcome to the boards!
Xracer.TFF Senior Staff. Posts: 3539 (1/16/03 4:37:26 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Hi Gabby.welcome to TFF. I'm in the same boat as TLynn.far from being an expert on this 'pre-ban' and 'post-ban' stuff, so I'll leave it to our experts to go into the details.but basically, there was a cutoff date, before which, military-style weapons could be imported with such goodies as folding stocks, pistol grips, flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and high-capacity magazines. If they were imported before that date (whatever it was), they're legal. After that date, they're not. Keep checking back.somebody who knows what they're talking about should be here soon.
If you'd like to talk about M1911s or Military History, stop by those Forums.THERE I know something. Edited by: Xracer at: 1/16/03 4:39:19 pm Zigzag2.TFF Senior Staff. Posts: 5263 (1/16/03 4:51:31 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Hello TF118, and welcome. The biggest difference in them is about $1,000.00 But on a serious note, check back with us, we'll find all we can.
TF118 Member Posts: 3 (1/16/03 4:54:21 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - XRacer, how'd U know to call me Gabby? 1952Sniper V.I.P.
Member Posts: 903 (1/16/03 5:19:01 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - My specialty, as it were, is with SKS's.
But it's the same principle as the Kalashnikovs. It all started with the Gun Control Act of 1968. That was the beginning.
Romanian Ak-47 Serial Numbers
Then, on July 7 1989, the Secretary of the Treasury (under George Bush the elder, mind you), banned various military style rifles from import. This would include anything that has a folding stock, bayonet, or detachable magazine.
Post-ban weapons may be imported with these features if they have enough US-made parts to be considered US-made firearms. Also, as far as the bayonet thing at least, we still see rifles coming into the country with these features as C&R rifles. The Yugoslavian M59/66 SKS is an example. However, all post-ban firearms, regardless of whether they are 'US-made' or not, cannot be legally modified into a 'semi-automatic assault weapon' by the legal definition. Pre-ban firearms are grandfathered in.
Norinco Ak 47 Pre Ban Markings
As TallTLynn mentioned above, don't be fooled by dealers who want to sell you a 'pre-ban' firearm. Ask for proof. Macht kaputt, was euch kaputt macht! LIKTOSHOOT.TFF Senior Staff. Posts: 6841 (1/16/03 6:57:29 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban?
- 1989 is the cut off date for imports-do not know the month. The better AK`s came in prior to 1985, with some of the best prior to 1980. These were simply modified military arms for the US market and the quality was outstanding.
The AK`s now, that allow pistol grips(ie: Romanian) can only have a pistol grip and must contain 'X' amount of US parts to even have that, it cannot have a folding stock nor flash-hider nor bayonet/lug. LTS Xracer.TFF Senior Staff. Posts: 3549 (1/17/03 9:55:02 am) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - TF118.Gabby, Tac (Steve) told us that was your nickname.
TF118 Member Posts: 1 (1/18/03 12:11:57 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Thats cool, I don't mind, just curious. Word travel's fast AGunguy.TFF Staff. Posts: 3121 (1/18/03 12:29:11 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Hi and welcome TF118 to the forum. Don't know much about the AK47 or preban stuff except maybe what TLynn has already said.
I've got a Romanian AK74 which is a cartridge much like our G.I.223 caliber but not interchangable. Kind of wish I'd been smarter and bought one in.223 caliber, at least I could reload for that one. But the 74 is a good shooter and has 3X9 40 scope on it that is only 7.5 inches long.also, has one of the AK Russian side-mounts that clip on the frame. I'm retired and can't afford the expensive toys like my oldest son who has an Armalite AR-10 in.308 and an AR180 in.223 caliber. Gunguy ruffitt.TFF Senior Staff. Posts: 1364 (1/18/03 12:30:56 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban?
- Hey Gabby - Not only did TAC tell us yer name, but with that last name you've got what'd you expect us to call ya - goofey er sompthin equally ina'proprite? Kan't tell ya much 'bout that pre ban 'n post ban stuff cause I jest don't know.
But others here should be able ta help ya. Any wayz, welcome to the boards. We been expectin ya. Don't be no stranger now an come back 'n visit with us rite reg'lar - ya heah!!! We'll be a'waitin fer ya, an mite even take ya down to the Pumphouse fer a bit of fun an partakin of Bob's Best.
Edited by: ruffitt at: 1/18/03 12:33:16 pm cointoss 2.TFF Staff. Posts: 1221 (1/18/03 1:19:44 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Can't tell you much about prebans or anything else but want to welcome you to the forum. Cointoss2 TF118 Member Posts: 3 (1/18/03 2:33:39 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Thank ya'all 4 the reception!
Think I'll like it here!! Gabby TallTLynn.TFF Senior Staff. Posts: 5371 (1/18/03 5:06:00 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Dang GG where did you get that scope? I want one for my AK-74 too! Trust me you wouldn't care as much for the SAR3 as much as the SAR2 - love mine and glad you got me to thinking about buying one. Tac401 Administrator Posts: 6851 (1/19/03 12:57:39 am) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban?
- Welcome Gabby! Tac TFF VMBB Email Tac fredarmory Member Posts: 15 (2/11/03 9:54:21 am) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban?
- Why is it- no one knows about the Brady Bill, Which has made purchaseing ANY AR rifle a felony unless you are a law enforcement member??? Warpig883.TFF Staff. Posts: 6223 (2/11/03 10:22:26 am) Reply Edit Del Re: Whats the difference between pre and post ban? - Ok, I will bite. Educate me fredarmory. The Firearms Forum is on online community for all gun enthusiasts.
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This might answer your questions: What I did was take your question a step further, by pointing out that many Chinese AK's have the 'evidence' on the trunnion, not the receiver. Someone could theoretically switch trunnions and put it on an unmarked or little-marked post-ban receiver and claim it as a pre-ban. Pdf list of companies in bhosari midc pune. Most likely that won't be happening.but I thought you were bringing up that concept again. What the others said, they are pretty much clearly marked if you do some research beforehand for what to avoid. One tricky example I can warn you of in advance is Sile Imports. The pre-bans have model names like 56s-1, while their post-ban models(specifically ones caught during law changes) are marked 1-56s-1 with the extra '1' before the original model name.
Other models from Sile use this extra '1' code to denote POST-ban status regardless of what the green-toothed lying gun dealer is trying to convince you of:).